Chairman Tauzin

Prepared Witness Testimony

The House Committee on Energy and Commerce

W.J. "Billy" Tauzin, Chairman

Link to Committee Tip Line:  Fight Waste, Fraud and Abuse
   

 

 

Perspectives on Interstate and International Shipments of Municipal Solid Waste.

Subcommittee on Environment and Hazardous Materials
August 1, 2001
10:00 AM
2123 Rayburn House Office Building 

 

 
 

Mr. Ervin Rogers
Chairman, Board of Supervisors of Glouchester, Virginia
10740 Woods Crossroad
Gloucester, VA, 23061

A.   Introduction

  • Mister Chairman, members of the sub-committee, I appreciate the opportunity to address you today concerning the legislation before you at this time.

  • I currently serve Gloucester Va. as Chairman of the Board of Supervisors

  • I am here today to express my views not those of the Board

  • Though I would like to leave with you a resolution passed by the board supporting state Senator Billing’s legislation known as the Solid Waste Management Act of 1999 giving the state of Virginia some control over the amount of waste imported from out-of-state. My intent here is to show you from the public record, what the boards attitude was concerning controls on the import of out-of-state waste.

  • I would also like to leave with you a resolution passed by the Gloucester Republican Committee supporting the same legislation. Again, I hope to show you from the public record that at least one faction of the community supported controls on out-of-state waste. It is my opinion that the majority of the county of Gloucester supports local and state controls on the import of out-of-state waste but these two resolutions are the only proof from public record I could acquire on short notice.

  • During my time to address you here today, I would like to present some information concerning the Mega landfill located in Gloucester County Va. I want to include information concerning our contract with WM, some history about how the facility came to be built, some input on how the community has been effected by the landfill, and finally give you a brief statement on my position concerning the legislation before this sub-committee. Before I get started I would like to take a moment to introduce myself and give you some incite in how I became interested in local politics.

  • I entered local politics in 1992 over the Boards desire to build a Mega landfill in Gloucester

  • I was a principle leader in the fight against this facility

  • I attended board meeting for 2 years before the contract between Gloucester County and WM was signed and for another 4 years before being elected to the Board. I also attended Planning Commission Meetings for 4 years prior to serving on the board. After the contract was signed I was concerned about where county leadership was taking the county – I sought out the planning commission to help me with these concerns. I found that this commission and its staff were forward thinking with only the best interest of the county in mind.

  • My current position on the landfill in Gloucester is to make the best out of the contract without increase daily tonnage.

 

B.   Current facts about landfill

With you permission I would like to continue by stating some facts about Gloucesters contract with WM

 

  • Gloucester owns this Meg facility and has contracted with WM to operate it

  • The facility was purchased with money donated to the county for that purpose by WM. Around $2M.

  • The contract states that if for any reason Gloucester terminates the contract – the county will reimburse all money invested in the facility by WM. This includes the $2M.

  • The contract is for 20 years and WM has the right to renew - county cannot deny them renewal.

  • WM must dispose of Gloucester’s solid waste for 20 years even, if they walk away from the facility

  • WM is allowed to dispose of 2000 tons a day in the facility including the tonnage from the county.

  • GC gets $.50 a ton up to a certain tonnage then  $1.00 a ton.

  • Estimated income for next year is $375,681 – we also get an Inspection service fee of 56,522 (Engineer and monitoring) – and an implementation fee of 91,371(old landfill inspection)

  • Total = $523,574

  • Primary benefit to GC is deferred cost for county solid waste disposal

  • The landfill should have a life of 47 years at rate of 2000 tons a day

  • The facility occupies 500 acres and will rise to 300 feet.

  • In the year 2000 WMs figures state that the facility brought in 519,532.72 tons.

  • In-state tonnage was 184,094.20 tons – out-of-state tonnage was 335,438.52 tons.  64.5% of the facilities capacity used in 2000 came from out-of-state

 

C.   Now I would like to address some history concerning the facility

  • The contract was signed in 1992

  • And the facility went into operation in 1995

  • The decision by the board of Supervisors to bring a commercial landfill to GC was by a vote of 4 to 3.

  • The community showed up at BOS meetings at a rate of about 250 people for two years to show their disfavor with the board’s position.

  • 8000 names were collected on a petition against bringing such a facility to GC and presented to the Board

  • After the contract was signed – a movement took place to remove the 4 supervisors that voted for the contract from office on the grounds of malfeasance.  The required number of signatures were collected to bring the issue to court.  In the case of the at-large supervisor - this amounted to 1681 signatures.  The case was dismissed due to a technicality.

  • All four board members that supported the landfill were removed from office in their next bid for re-election. One had been in office for 28 years and was defeated by the first woman elected to the GC BOS a 32-year-old teacher’s aide. Another had been on the board for 16 years and was defeated by a margin of approximately 2 to 1. Another had been on the board for 12 years and another for 4 years. This supervisor finished 4TH in a 4 way race. One was defeated within one year of the contract signing and the other 3 were defeated 2 years after the signing. The citizens of GC had long memories concerning this issue. Two board members that did not support the landfill are still on the board - the other ran successfully for re-election one more time and then retired – I currently fill his seat.

  • I personally was told by a WM representative in a private conversation, that NY solid waste would never be disposed of in GC – that this facility would be only a regional landfill.

  • The landfill is still a volatile issue in the county

 

D.  How has the landfill effected the community

  • Landfill has been operational since 1995.

  • Nearly all citizens that lived on the perimeter of the landfill have sold their homes and property to WM and moved.

  • The community has been inconvenienced by traffic, noise, and odor.

  • There have been a couple of engineering mistakes that have caused prolonged problems with large volumes of escaping gas. One lasted for a period of nearly 6 months.

  • Medical waste has been found on the property a couple of times.

  • Erosion has caused problems with adjoining property.

  • The Facility manager has been successful with an extensive public relations campaign. He is active with the chamber of commerce and has made several donations to public service organizations. He lives in James City County. I consider this man to be a friend. We don’t often agree on maters concerning the facility, but have learned to work together. Sometimes coming to an agreement and sometimes not.

E.   Statement supporting Greenwood and Davis legislation

It is my opinion that landfills are a necessary evil, but a threat to the environment. No engineering solution that is composed of a man made material can last forever.  A state should only have landfill capacity that allows it to manage solid waste in a manor that is acceptable to its citizens. Without the ability to manage the amount of out-of-state waste brought into a state - no meaningful solid waste disposal strategy can be developed by a state or local government. Without the ability to develop such a strategy a state can have nothing to say about the environmental risk that is being imposed on its citizens and natural resources by the disposal of solid waste within its boundaries. Waste disposal companies and counties that have become dependent - for whatever reason - on solid waste tipping fees, will control all of this. For these reasons I support the Greenwood Bill and the changes proposed by Rep. Davis. Giving states the ability to set caps on the percentage of solid waste imported from out-of-state into existing facilities is paramount to allowing states to manage solid waste in a meaningful way. 

THANK YOU

 

 
 

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