Chairman Tauzin

Prepared Witness Testimony

The House Committee on Energy and Commerce

W.J. "Billy" Tauzin, Chairman

Link to Committee Tip Line:  Fight Waste, Fraud and Abuse
   

 

 

Three Bills Pertaining to the Transport of Solid Waste: H.R. 382, H.R. 411 and H.R. 1730

Subcommittee on Environment and Hazardous Materials
July 23, 2003
3:00 PM
2123 Rayburn House Office Building 

 

 
 

Mr. Nick DiPasquale
Deputy Secretary
Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection
Rachel Carson State Office Building
400 Market Street
Harrisburg, PA, 17105

Chairman Gillmor, members of the Committee, my name is Nicholas DiPasquale. I am the Deputy Secretary of the Office of Air, Recycling and Radiation Protection, Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection. I am here today on behalf of Governor Edward Rendell and DEP Secretary Kathleen McGinty to talk to you about an issue of great importance to the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania - interstate waste.

I want to thank Representative Greenwood for this opportunity to testify before the committee today. I also want to thank the Representative for his ongoing efforts in addressing the challenge that the interstate movement of waste presents to each of us. We appreciate the efforts of Representative Greenwood and look forward to working with him to keep this issue in the forefront of public discussion.

States need the authority to implement reasonable controls on the amount of out-of-state waste being imported into their jurisdiction and each state needs to take responsibility in planning for the management of their Municipal Solid Waste. Pennsylvania recognizes that only Congress has the authority to enable States to regulate the interstate movement of waste. The United States Supreme Court has made that clear. Congress must act for Pennsylvania and other States to have the proper tools to manage the interstate movement of waste.

In the 1980s, Pennsylvania took the responsibility for the management of its own waste by increasing environmentally sound permitted disposal capacity. Other states have benefited from this. Pennsylvania believes that states should work to manage their disposal needs within their own borders.

The Commonwealth has made efforts to improve the management and the safety of the management of all waste present in Pennsylvania. The efforts to increase the amount of recycling have been ongoing since 1988 and remain a high priority. Pennsylvania's Department of Environmental Protection has conducted safety inspections, known as "Trashnets" in cooperation with surrounding states in an effort to improve the condition and safe use of waste transportation vehicles.

In addition, the Pennsylvania Legislature passed Act 90 last year, entitled the "Waste Transportation Safety Act," in an effort to ensure the responsible and safe transportation of municipal and industrial waste by requiring written authorization from Pennsylvania's Department of Environmental Protection for any vehicle disposing of waste in Pennsylvania. We have already authorized over 26,000 waste vehicles under Act 90.

Any discussion of interstate waste at the federal level has merit and should be supported. "The Solid Waste Interstate Transportation Act of 2003" bill introduced by Representative Greenwood is a positive piece of federal legislation to address this issue. However, as with any legislative proposal, there are changes that would help address Pennsylvania issues.

As examples, there are two definitions to which we suggest minor adjustments that are technical in nature. We offer these in the spirit of support for Representative Greenwood's legislation.

First, an "affected local government" is defined as "… the public body authorized by State law to plan for the management of municipal solid waste …". In Pennsylvania, Act 101, the Municipal Waste Planning, Recycling and Waste Reduction Act, requires counties to plan for the management of municipal waste; therefore, the affected local government in Pennsylvania would be the county, not the municipality.

This minor change would be helpful in Pennsylvania's varying levels of local government, including county and municipal governments, can enter into host community agreements. To address this issue, the term "affected local government" needs to be broadly defined to include all levels of local governments that execute host community agreements. This would enable host municipalities, which bear most of the adverse impacts of a solid waste facility, to have the decision-making power about the receipt of out-of-state waste at the facility.

Second, the definition of "municipal solid waste" excludes "recyclable materials," which are defined in the legislation as "materials that are diverted, separated from, or separately managed from materials otherwise destined for disposal as solid waste, by collecting, sorting, or processing for use as raw materials or feedstocks in lieu of, or in addition to, virgin materials, including petroleum, in the manufacture of usable materials or products." The definition of "recyclable materials" does not include the requirement that the material actually be recycled. The definition only requires that the materials be separated at the curb or managed separately from other waste destined for disposal. In order to align the definition of "recyclable materials" with the Pennsylvania definition, the federal definition should require that the materials actually be recycled.

The bill as proposed would establish a presumptive ban on the receipt and disposal of out-of-state municipal solid waste at landfills and incinerators. However, the legislation also specifies certain situations where the presumptive ban would not apply, thereby allowing the receipt and disposal of out-of-state waste at a facility. The presumptive ban would not apply in situations where host community agreements, permits or contracts specifically authorize the receipt of out of state waste.

The host community agreements would have to be with counties, but in Pennsylvania, host community agreements are entered into with local communities. Shifting the agreements could cause considerable concern to local communities and other affected communities that currently receive revenues from the facility to offset the inconveniences of hosting the facility. There are only a few permits and contracts if any, that would meet the conditions for exemption as currently drafted in the bill.

Regarding the establishment of out-of-state waste limits based upon 1995 levels, it should be noted that the definition for a "comprehensive recycling program" is more encompassing and explicit than the recycling program provisions established by Pennsylvania's Act 101 because the bill's definition requires the generators of municipal solid waste to separate all of a list of materials for recycling as a condition of disposing of the waste at landfills or incinerators in the state.

Because Pennsylvania's recycling law requires only three materials from a list of materials to be separated, it is questionable whether Pennsylvania would be eligible to implement the freeze based upon 1995 waste levels.

Until federal legislation is passed, the Commonwealth will continue to pursue the improvement of recycling programs, cooperation with other states, and the improvement of safe management of waste. We would be happy to provide a more detailed analysis with specific recommended amendments for your consideration.

We look forward to working with Representative Greenwood and other members of Congress as this legislation moves forward.

Thank you.

 
 

Related Documents

 

 
 

Printer Friendly

Comment On This Page

Related Documents

 
 

Document Menu

Hearing Webcast

Invited Witnesses

Member Statements

Printed Hearing Record
(transcript)